SHould we ALLAHU AKHBAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Counterops · Post by **Counterops** » Wed Oct 12, 2005 6:00 pm

Well you are SO wrong about it.
Because there is no truth on these matters.

Picking up three fools on the street that are predicting chaos and rejoicing it sounds for you as a valuable argument but as a matter of FACTS : it isn't.

We all have descent feelings when it comes to pay respect to the people who are suffereing and I don't see any reasons why we should laugh at them.

I think you are wrong and should be able to understand that the majority of the people wether they are Muslims or christians don't think as you do. People live normal lives and enjoy what is good for them.

You shouldn't be obsessed by some ridiculous details that don't help you in anyway.

So what if they were three pricks rejoicing things that they can't understand?

Shit, if I had to pay attention to all details that are worthless then I would be surely losing my time.

So many people say so many things.......

...when there are good things to do and to enjoy on this planet...
Why should we bother with some details when we know it isn't important?

yodave · Post by **yodave** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 2:01 am

that is correct. Evever puppet has this in common. They bullshit about terrorism. THRE IS NO SUCH THING AS A MUSLIM TERRORIST

Azog · Post by **Azog** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 3:24 am

Hmmmmm, Yodave, how do you explain the individuals praying over a suicide belt in Indonesia before they detonate themselves? I mean, Indonesia is the most populous MUSLIM country, and the westerners who visit are bringing money to spend so that people there might earn better living.........What is that? What do you call OBL who sent 19 muslims to destroy WTC? Is that done in the name of Santa Claus or Islam? Are they still muslims, or no? Think about it and come back to me with an answer.....

rat_clock · Post by **rat_clock** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 5:50 am

yodave said: They bullshit about terrorism. THRE IS NO SUCH THING AS A MUSLIM TERRORIST

Well, (Al Taouba), surat number 29, verse 29, "fight against those who believe not in Allah; nor in the last day, nor forbid that which have been forbidden by Allah and his messenger Mohammed; and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth, Islam, among the people of the scripture."
I don't think that anybody who reads the Quran could deny the verse
that is telling the Muslim, "Go, torture, kill, go, fight, kill."

Allah’s order was to, “slay them wherever ye catch them”. (Q.2:191)
Allah in dealing with the unbelievers.

I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their fingertips off them 8:12

Counterops · Post by **Counterops** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 12:41 am

I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their fingertips off them

Meaning of Anfal

Al-Bukhari recorded that Ibn `Abbas said, "Al-Anfal are the spoils of war.'' Al-Bukhari also recorded that Sa`id bin Jubayr said, "I said to Ibn `Abbas, `Surat Al-Anfal' He said, `It was revealed concerning (the battle of) Badr.''' `Ali bin Abi Talhah reported, as Al-Bukhari recorded from Ibn `Abbas without a chain of narration, that Ibn `Abbas said, "Al-Anfal are the spoils of war; they were for the Messenger of Allah , and none had a share in them.'' Similar was said by Mujahid, `Ikrimah, `Ata', Ad-Dahhak, Qatadah, `Ata' Al-Khurasani, Muqatil bin Hayyan, `Abdur-Rahman bin Zayd bin Aslam and several others. It was also said that the Nafl (singular for Anfal) refers to the portion of the spoils of war that the commander gives to some of the fighters after dividing the bulk of the spoils. It was also said that Anfal refers to the Khumus; one-fifth of the captured goods after four-fifths are divided [between the fighters]. It was also said that the Anfal refers to the Fay', the possessions taken from the disbelievers without fighting, and the animals, servants or whatever other possessions escape from the disbelievers to Muslims.

Allah commands the Angels to fight and support the Believers

Allah said,

((Remember) when your Lord revealed to the angels, "Verily, I am with you, so keep firm those who have believed.'')

This is a hidden favor that Allah has made known to the believers, so that they thank Him and are grateful to Him for it. Allah, glorified, exalted, blessed and praised be He, has revealed to the angels -- whom He sent to support His Prophet, religion and believing group -- to make the believers firmer. Allah's statement,

(I will cast terror into the hearts of those who have disbelieved.) means, `you -- angels -- support the believers, strengthen their (battle) front against their enemies, thus, implementing My command to you. I will cast fear, disgrace and humiliation over those who defied My command and denied My Messenger, f

(so strike them over the necks, and smite over all their fingers and toes.) strike them on their foreheads to tear them apart and over the necks to cut them off, and cut off their limbs, hands and feet. It was said that,

(over the necks) refers to striking the forehead, or the neck, according to Ad-Dahhak and `Atiyyah Al-`Awfi. In support of the latter, Allah commanded the believers,

(So, when you meet (in fight Jihad in Allah's cause) those who disbelieve, smite (their) necks till when you have killed and wounded many of them, then bind a bond firmly (on them, take them as captives).) [47:4]

Ar-Rabi` bin Anas said, "In the aftermath of Badr, the people used to recognize whomever the angels killed from those whom they killed, by the wounds over their necks, fingers and toes, because those parts had a mark as if they were branded by fire.'' Allah said,

(and smite over all their fingers and toes.)

Ibn Jarir commented that this Ayah commands, "O believers! Strike every limb and finger on the hands and feet of your (disbelieving) enemies.'' Al-`Awfi reported, that Ibn `Abbas said about the battle of Badr that Abu Jahl said, "Do not kill them (the Muslims), but capture them so that you make known to them what they did, their ridiculing your religion and shunning Al-Lat and Al-`Uzza (two idols).'' Allah than sent down to the angels,

(Verily, I am with you, so keep firm those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who have disbelieved, so strike them over the necks, and smite over all their fingers and toes.)

In that battle, Abu Jahl (may Allah curse him) was killed along with sixty-nine men. `Uqbah bin Abu Mua`it was captured and then killed, thus bring the death toll of the pagans to seventy,

(This is because they defied and disobeyed Allah and His Messenger.) joining the camp that defied Allah and His Messenger not including themselves in the camp of Allah's Law and faith in Him. Allah said,

(And whoever defies and disobeys Allah and His Messenger, then verily, Allah is severe in punishment.) for He will crush whoever defies and disobeys Him. Nothing ever escapes Allah's grasp nor can anything ever stand against His anger. Blessed and exalted He is, there is no true deity or Lord except Him.

(This is (the torment), so taste it; and surely, for the disbelievers is the torment of the Fire.)

This Ayah addresses the disbeliever, saying, taste this torment and punishment in this life and know that the torment of the Fire in the Hereafter is for the disbelievers.

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You have to watch at the context if you want to quote a verse from the Quran.

Otherwise you are missing the point.

rfl · Post by **rfl** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 3:48 am

YOU ARE TOTALLY RIGHT, THEY PICK PARTS FROM HERE AND THERE AND PUT THEM TOGETHER TO SUITE THEIR LIES, DOESN'T THAT SOUND FAMILIAR. THE U.S. GOV HAS BEEN USING THIS METHOD FOR OVER 50 YEARS, TO FIGHT WARS AND ACCOMPLISH DOMINANCE.

knoxternal · Post by **knoxternal** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 10:07 pm

rat_clock wrote:IF the world doesnt wan to send help to PAKISTAN,,,Cos that is a land of terrorism, The place where Korean,and japanese,beheaded without mercy............Do u think the member of al-quada will come out and bring food and medic to victim>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Even though the pakistani people might not be...Pakistan is a imortent ally in the so called war on terrer i think you reffering to afganistan

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/0 ... an.arrest/

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/nati ... thunt.html

GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!! thers no point of talking to ignorent people such as your self.